you worked for president george w. bush. is there common ground that needs to be sought on this issue in this country, do you think? >> i think there can be. look, i have two daughters who are the exact same age as the kids who died in newtown. there are a lot of things the republicans can support like the president announced. better gun owner and safety education and mental health support and helping develop emergency responses and the rest but when the president goes to gun control i think the public support and bipartisan support drops dramatically. there is a fox news poll shows only 22% of americans believe more gun control would have actually stopped an incident in newtown where as 71% think the criminals will get guns anyway. the 71% are right. there sim peer call evidence that shows it. i think it is a mistake to go after gun control. >> criminals will always get guns. go ahead, i'm sorry. martha: go ahead, alan. >> criminals will always get guns. doesn't mean you don't make laws. if that is the case you didn't make